{"id":894,"date":"2018-08-17T14:07:59","date_gmt":"2018-08-17T13:07:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nonewwars.co.uk\/blog\/?p=894"},"modified":"2018-08-19T14:33:37","modified_gmt":"2018-08-19T13:33:37","slug":"celebrating-weapons-of-war-in-a-cathedral","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nonewwars.co.uk\/blog\/2018\/08\/celebrating-weapons-of-war-in-a-cathedral\/","title":{"rendered":"Celebrating weapons of war &#8230; in a cathedral"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As part of their celebration of the RAF&#8217;s 100 birthday, Lincoln Cathedral staff decided to exhibit a Spitfire fighter aircraft within the cathedral itself.\u00a0 As a cathedral with a long-established link to the RAF I can understand why they fancied doing this: the Spitfire is am emblem associated with the Battle of Britain.\u00a0 It is significant in being associated with the RAF&#8217;s role in ensuring the Luftwaffe did not get control of the airspace above the UK, meaning a German invasion of the UK could not go ahead.<\/p>\n<p>But is it appropriate in a church?\u00a0 It is a killing machine, after all.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net\/v\/t1.0-9\/38823954_10101090539524074_641694390632316928_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&amp;oh=36db123e6a1aeea2a56441d62bed0589&amp;oe=5BEFE52E\" alt=\"Spitfire in Lincoln Cathedral\" \/><\/p>\n<p>It was flagged up in the Facebook group <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/everydaymilitarism\/\">A social audit of #EverydayMilitarism<\/a> and from their shared to the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/taxesforpeace\/\">Conscience: Taxes for Peace not War<\/a> group which is where I saw it.<\/p>\n<p>Some (edited) comments made:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A weapon of war in Lincoln Cathedral&#8230;RAF100 Dinner being set up.\u00a0 Is it here to be symbolically disassembled by the church? To sit as a reminder of war as one of our &#8220;foolish ways&#8221; to be turned aside from? To sit alongside a display of the horrors of destruction and death which all such things are designed to bring? To be bathed in tears?\u00a0 I hope so. I really hope so. <strong>I don&#8217;t believe any weapon of death should be allowed in to church<\/strong> &#8211; save the cross: the site of our evil, our wrongdoing, our sin, and the triumph of Jesus Christ who says: &#8220;forgive them father for they know not what they do&#8221; and extends his hands in love.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span class=\" UFICommentActorAndBody\"> and<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span class=\" UFICommentActorAndBody\"><span data-ft=\"{&quot;tn&quot;:&quot;K&quot;}\"><span class=\"UFICommentBody _1n4g\">Glorification of war. Perhaps they&#8217;ll put on a nice display of barbed wire and machine guns for Remembrance Sunday.\u00a0 I should have thought a bomber would have been more suitable: Bomber Command were vital to the destruction of Germany&#8217;s production.\u00a0 I wonder if it will it still be there when the German Neustadt Liedertafel choir come for the War Requiem later this year?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>and<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span class=\" UFICommentActorAndBody\"> <span data-ft=\"{&quot;tn&quot;:&quot;K&quot;}\"><span class=\"UFICommentBody _1n4g\">Yes, it is commemorating the 100th anniversary of the formation of the RAF, and the Battle of Britain was their finest hour.\u00a0 But celebrating it in a religious building by showing off a finely crafted, excellently designed, utterly superb killing machine is a strange way of going about it. The Supermarine Spitfire was a highly manoeuvrable, high-speed platform for delivering 2,800 machine gun bullets into an aircraft and its crew in 18 seconds.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>In the USA they have churches who celebrate automatic rifles and take them to church: <a class=\"\" dir=\"ltr\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/news\/hundreds-of-worshipers-gather-at-church-hosting-ceremony-featuring-ar-15s\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" data-lynx-mode=\"hover\" data-lynx-uri=\"https:\/\/l.facebook.com\/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fnews%2Fhundreds-of-worshipers-gather-at-church-hosting-ceremony-featuring-ar-15s%2F&amp;h=AT0apV2dF-WJxYWfkWYjM4MFZSbRMk8UZRRiHA214048kmFWLW_RR97FLUGmGdjJRqyv1Z56mC8HZ9eckhnkZn5NERiQxUpdNIs5b0CH6J6oUqVHqXVGyzYrUEaj\">https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/&#8230;\/hundreds-of-worshipers&#8230;\/<\/a> They are barking mad &#8211; what is the difference?<\/p>\n<p>Remembering the sacrifices of the crews of fighter command and bomber command is one thing. Celebrating the killing machines &#8211; in a church &#8211; is quite another.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>and<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span class=\" UFICommentActorAndBody\"> <span data-ft=\"{&quot;tn&quot;:&quot;K&quot;}\"><span class=\"UFICommentBody\">It would be better to celebrate in terms of the international strengthening of human rights and outlawing of fascism, the non-violent resolution of conflict and ( if one is religious) the understanding of difference and ( in my view) the dispelling of the class system.\u00a0 I suspect Christ might have preferred that.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I sent a message to the Lincoln Cathedral events staff (17\/08\/2018 11:57):<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span class=\" UFICommentActorAndBody\"><span data-ft=\"{&quot;tn&quot;:&quot;K&quot;}\"><span class=\"UFICommentBody _1n4g\">If Lincoln Cathedral can celebrate the glorification of war machines (the Spitfire), it is equally acceptable for mosques to celebrate the mujahideen participating in military Jihad. It is the same thing.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span class=\" UFICommentActorAndBody\"><span data-ft=\"{&quot;tn&quot;:&quot;K&quot;}\"><span class=\"UFICommentBody _1n4g\">You need to stop teaching people &#8211; especially children &#8211; that religion approves of violence and that killing people is the way to solve problems.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span class=\" UFICommentActorAndBody\"><span data-ft=\"{&quot;tn&quot;:&quot;K&quot;}\"><span class=\"UFICommentBody _1n4g\">That wasn&#8217;t the message of Jesus as I was taught it.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>I look forward to their response.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As part of their celebration of the RAF&#8217;s 100 birthday, Lincoln Cathedral staff decided to exhibit a Spitfire fighter aircraft within the cathedral itself.\u00a0 As a cathedral with a long-established link to the RAF I can understand why they fancied &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/nonewwars.co.uk\/blog\/2018\/08\/celebrating-weapons-of-war-in-a-cathedral\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[294,316,154,151],"tags":[296,317,160,157],"class_list":["post-894","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-cognitive-dissonance","category-everyday-militarism","category-killing-for-christ","category-religion","tag-cognitive-dissonance","tag-everyday-militarism","tag-killing-for-christ","tag-religion"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/nonewwars.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/894","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/nonewwars.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/nonewwars.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nonewwars.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nonewwars.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=894"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/nonewwars.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/894\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":899,"href":"https:\/\/nonewwars.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/894\/revisions\/899"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/nonewwars.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=894"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nonewwars.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=894"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nonewwars.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=894"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}